To Love sinners you must Kill them!
Were the Mormon temple oaths SECRET agreements to allow and commit murder?
The "First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood" (exact wording, prior to 1990, of one of the many rituals practiced in mormon temples):
NOTE: I know this to be the case by personal experience as I had attended the mormon temple over thirty times in 1988 within one year and then attended over twenty times after 1990 upon returning home from a two year mormon mission.
"We are required to give unto you the First Tokens of the Aaronic Priesthood. Before doing this, however, we desire to impress upon your minds the sacred character of the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign and penalty, together with that of all other Tokens of the Holy Priesthood, with their accompanying names, signs and penalties, which you will receive in the temple this day. They are most sacred and are GUARDED BY SOLEMN COVENANTS AND OBLIGATIONS OF SECRECY to the effect that UNDER NO CONDITION, EVEN AT THE PERIL OF YOUR LIFE, WILL YOU EVER DIVULGE THEM, except at a certain place that will be shown you hereafter. THE REPRESENTATION OF THE PENALTIES INDICATES THE DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH LIFE MAY BE TAKEN...
The EXECUTION OF THE PENALTY is represented by placing the thumb under the left ear, the palm of the hand down, and by drawing the thumb quickly across the throat, to the right ear, and dropping the hand to the side."
This secret oath and its accompanying penalty is quite similiar to what is presented to initiates of Freemasonry.
"I will never reveal any part or parts, art or arts, point or points of the secret arts and mysteries of ancient Freemasonry... binding myself under no less penalty than to have my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by the roots."
(William Morgan, Freemasonry Exposed, p. 21-22)
It is a fact that these temple oaths were sacredly guarded with obligations of secrecy to not divulge them or suffer your life to be taken as the penalty.
Mormon leaders today do not speak of penalties of death for breaking church oaths and commandments; they even removed all traces of them from the sacred temple ceremony in 1990 but this was not so earlier in Mormonism.
In a discourse delivered December 13, 1857, Heber C. Kimball, a member of the First Presidency, declared: "Judas lost that saving principle, and they took him and killed him.... they actually kicked him until his bowels came out...
'I will suffer my bowels to be taken out before I will forfeit the covenant I have made with Him and my brethren.' Do you understand me? ... I know the day is right at hand when men will forfeit their Priesthood and turn against the covenants they have made, and they will be destroyed as Judas was."
(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 125-26)
"I say, that there are men and women that I would advise to go to the President immediately, and ask him to appoint a committee to attend to their case; and then let a place be selected, and let that committee shed their blood."
(Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, p. 49)
"I would ask how many covenant breakers there are in this city and in this kingdom. I believe that there are a great many; and if they are covenant breakers we need a place designated, where we can shed their blood."
(Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, p. 50)
"But this people will never, no never, prosper to a high degree until we make a public example of men that have been warned and forewarned. We will take them and slay them before this people."
(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, p. 173)
"I have not a doubt but there will be hundreds who will leave us to our enemies. I wish they would go this fall; it might relieve us from much trouble; for if men turn traitors to God and His servants, their blood will surely be shed, or else they will be damned, and that too according to their covenants."
(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, p. 375)
"I say rather than that apostates should flourish here, I would unsheathe my bowie knife and conquer or die."
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, p. 83)
"If you want to know what to do with a thief that you may find stealing, I say kill him on the spot, and never suffer him to commit another iniquity."
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, p. 108)
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 10, p. 110)
"Let me suppose a case. Suppose you found your brother in bed with your wife, and put a javelin through both of them, you would be justified, and they would atone for their sins, and be received into the kingdom of God. I would at once do so in such a case; and under such circumstances, I have no wife whom I love so well that I would not put a javelin through her heart, and I would do it with clean hands."
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, p. 247)
"The people in Utah are the only ones in this nation who have taken effectual measures, we will not say to suppress, for the word is entirely inapplicable to them, but to prevent adulteries and criminal connections between the sexes. The punishment in that territory for those crimes is death to both male and female on the spot."
(Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 223)
"There is not a man or woman, who violates the covenants made with their God, that will not be required to pay the debt. The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it; and the judgments of the Almighty will come, sooner or later, and every man and woman will have to atone for breaking their covenants."
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, p. 247)
"I have known a great many men who have left this Church for whom there is no chance whatever for exaltation, but if their blood had been spilled, it would have been better for them. The wickedness and ignorance of the nations forbid this principle's being in full force, but the time will come when the law of God will be in full force.
This is loving our neighbor as ourselves; if he needs help, help him; and if he wants salvation and it is necessary to spill his blood on the earth in order that he may be saved, spill it. Any of you who understand the principles of eternity, if you have sinned a sin requiring the shedding of blood, except the sin unto death, would not be satisfied nor rest until your blood should be spilled, that you might gain that salvation you desire. That is the way to love mankind."
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, p. 220)
What does Jesus say about dealing with enemies and sinners?
26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.
30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
(Luke 6:26-36)
What does Jesus say about forgiving others?
21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
(Matt 18:21-22)
Apparently Brigham Young and other mormon leaders did not believe the words of Jesus when it comes to dealing with sinners but actually prefered killing them.
This perspective was deeply rooted in the secret oaths of the mormon temple rituals... as scary and crazy as it may seem this is what the early mormon leaders taught as the word of God.
The "First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood" (exact wording, prior to 1990, of one of the many rituals practiced in mormon temples):
NOTE: I know this to be the case by personal experience as I had attended the mormon temple over thirty times in 1988 within one year and then attended over twenty times after 1990 upon returning home from a two year mormon mission.
"We are required to give unto you the First Tokens of the Aaronic Priesthood. Before doing this, however, we desire to impress upon your minds the sacred character of the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign and penalty, together with that of all other Tokens of the Holy Priesthood, with their accompanying names, signs and penalties, which you will receive in the temple this day. They are most sacred and are GUARDED BY SOLEMN COVENANTS AND OBLIGATIONS OF SECRECY to the effect that UNDER NO CONDITION, EVEN AT THE PERIL OF YOUR LIFE, WILL YOU EVER DIVULGE THEM, except at a certain place that will be shown you hereafter. THE REPRESENTATION OF THE PENALTIES INDICATES THE DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH LIFE MAY BE TAKEN...
The EXECUTION OF THE PENALTY is represented by placing the thumb under the left ear, the palm of the hand down, and by drawing the thumb quickly across the throat, to the right ear, and dropping the hand to the side."
This secret oath and its accompanying penalty is quite similiar to what is presented to initiates of Freemasonry.
"I will never reveal any part or parts, art or arts, point or points of the secret arts and mysteries of ancient Freemasonry... binding myself under no less penalty than to have my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by the roots."
(William Morgan, Freemasonry Exposed, p. 21-22)
It is a fact that these temple oaths were sacredly guarded with obligations of secrecy to not divulge them or suffer your life to be taken as the penalty.
Mormon leaders today do not speak of penalties of death for breaking church oaths and commandments; they even removed all traces of them from the sacred temple ceremony in 1990 but this was not so earlier in Mormonism.
In a discourse delivered December 13, 1857, Heber C. Kimball, a member of the First Presidency, declared: "Judas lost that saving principle, and they took him and killed him.... they actually kicked him until his bowels came out...
'I will suffer my bowels to be taken out before I will forfeit the covenant I have made with Him and my brethren.' Do you understand me? ... I know the day is right at hand when men will forfeit their Priesthood and turn against the covenants they have made, and they will be destroyed as Judas was."
(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 125-26)
"I say, that there are men and women that I would advise to go to the President immediately, and ask him to appoint a committee to attend to their case; and then let a place be selected, and let that committee shed their blood."
(Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, p. 49)
"I would ask how many covenant breakers there are in this city and in this kingdom. I believe that there are a great many; and if they are covenant breakers we need a place designated, where we can shed their blood."
(Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, p. 50)
"But this people will never, no never, prosper to a high degree until we make a public example of men that have been warned and forewarned. We will take them and slay them before this people."
(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, p. 173)
"I have not a doubt but there will be hundreds who will leave us to our enemies. I wish they would go this fall; it might relieve us from much trouble; for if men turn traitors to God and His servants, their blood will surely be shed, or else they will be damned, and that too according to their covenants."
(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, p. 375)
"I say rather than that apostates should flourish here, I would unsheathe my bowie knife and conquer or die."
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, p. 83)
"If you want to know what to do with a thief that you may find stealing, I say kill him on the spot, and never suffer him to commit another iniquity."
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, p. 108)
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 10, p. 110)
"Let me suppose a case. Suppose you found your brother in bed with your wife, and put a javelin through both of them, you would be justified, and they would atone for their sins, and be received into the kingdom of God. I would at once do so in such a case; and under such circumstances, I have no wife whom I love so well that I would not put a javelin through her heart, and I would do it with clean hands."
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, p. 247)
"The people in Utah are the only ones in this nation who have taken effectual measures, we will not say to suppress, for the word is entirely inapplicable to them, but to prevent adulteries and criminal connections between the sexes. The punishment in that territory for those crimes is death to both male and female on the spot."
(Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 223)
"There is not a man or woman, who violates the covenants made with their God, that will not be required to pay the debt. The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it; and the judgments of the Almighty will come, sooner or later, and every man and woman will have to atone for breaking their covenants."
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, p. 247)
"I have known a great many men who have left this Church for whom there is no chance whatever for exaltation, but if their blood had been spilled, it would have been better for them. The wickedness and ignorance of the nations forbid this principle's being in full force, but the time will come when the law of God will be in full force.
This is loving our neighbor as ourselves; if he needs help, help him; and if he wants salvation and it is necessary to spill his blood on the earth in order that he may be saved, spill it. Any of you who understand the principles of eternity, if you have sinned a sin requiring the shedding of blood, except the sin unto death, would not be satisfied nor rest until your blood should be spilled, that you might gain that salvation you desire. That is the way to love mankind."
(Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, p. 220)
What does Jesus say about dealing with enemies and sinners?
26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.
30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
(Luke 6:26-36)
What does Jesus say about forgiving others?
21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
(Matt 18:21-22)
Apparently Brigham Young and other mormon leaders did not believe the words of Jesus when it comes to dealing with sinners but actually prefered killing them.
This perspective was deeply rooted in the secret oaths of the mormon temple rituals... as scary and crazy as it may seem this is what the early mormon leaders taught as the word of God.
posted by Elder Smith and Young | 8:30 PM
1 Comments:
so many of my girlfriend converts and I were wigged out by the temple rites . . .early 70's. xmormon
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